One, intended as a super revolver cartridge, failed to make the grade in firearms with cylinders but is a fine performer in other platforms. Both have threaded barrels to make them more relative and modern. It's important to note that when using cast bullets, you will need to use gas checks since the velocities reached with .357 Remington Maximum may cause problems. Worried about scratching that brass? From reloading to bullet selection, reloading powder choice and factory ammunit. Im still waiting for someone to make a 357 in. You are using an out of date browser. of Israeli Defense Forces, joins David Fortier for an exclusive interview for Shotgun News. This means that hunters are able to control the firearm much better, making more accurate and effective shots. Christmas is coming. Extremely accurate, small groupsit reminds me why I got into shooting in the first place. Many Max shooters (myself included) find poor accuracy with magnum cases. Reloading is a good alternative if you can get the supplies, but from what I read things like primers are becoming harder to find as well. Later, Dan Wesson Firearms made double-action revolvers, and Thompson/Center offered single-shot Contender pistol barrels. The .357 and .45 Colt are best at bowhunting distances inside 50 yards. In an effort to keep the playing field dead level for all competitors, they rigidly adhered to the no-modification standard. Give a Gift Buy .357 Maximum SuperMag 180g Hornady XTP HP 1800 FPS 20 rounds: GunBroker is the largest seller of Pistol Ammunition Ammunition All: 972984640. . Not question those who do or did so, cause theres something special about shooting a lever action. Ruger developed a Blackhawk specifically for the cartridge, but word of barrel erosion and "flame cutting" came to light quickly and production of the revolver was ceased with only about 400 produced. Then expand and retool , upgrade if you find its your thing. These comments are directed at the people say there is no ammo to buy, or its too expensive. The conversion was not troublesome at all other than a rebarrel and chamber job , it feeds with no modifications whatever needed. This is especially true if you plan to hunt or compete in silhouette competitions as lighter bullets don't maintain enough energy at longer ranges. It was even out of warranty and they took care of it no charge. Some hunters have decided to have single-shot rifles rechambered for the cartridge because it's very easy to handle when fired from a rifle. Oranges should be squeezed into juice. Very accurate, which makes it very deadly. The world's most powerful firearm database. The unnecessary cross bolt safety can easily be deleted with a Beartooth Mercantile safety delete kit for $35.00. I just read how lever actions were among the first guns carried on single point slings. As far as commiespretty sure it would get the job done. Or crushed and fermented into a crisp, dry Cider. The Story of my life it seems. Also, the flame proved to be hard on the rear end of the barrel, rapidly destroying the smooth taper of the forcing cone.The makers involved cleared their drawing boards and mandated corrections. Pun intended. They should come from the factory that way. Here in Ohio legal deer hunting rifle cartridges are straightwall cases from .357 to .50. Rossi makes various models starting at about $500. The .357 Atomic was just a .357 loaded to higher than standard pressures. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gunsmith-review-wild-west-guns-marlin-rescue-project/, Not a .357, but a Rossi lever. Poppycock; the .357 Magnum is one of the best rounds for personal defense out there. Slower burning powders will enjoy a longer barrel more than faster burning powders. Features Sig Hard casing (2) Additonal 12 Round mag European American Armory, Windicator, Medium Frame, 357 Magnum, 4" Barrel, Steel Frame, Nickel Finish, Rubber Grips, Fixed Sights, 6Rd. by groschen1936 Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:28 pm, Post The .357 Maximum can be a potentially great cast bullet cartridge. by AJMD429 Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:09 pm, Post Or the new Marlin Dark series for a little more money. This is my wifes go-to rifle for defense. Lack of inventory isnt relevance in modern times. I own lots of guns..I just like a lever rifle best for fun and utility. I might have read your post incorrectly but I live in occupied Ca and I have a Rossi 92 (1892 clone) and a Taurus 605 both in .38sp/.357. It's another special purpose cartridge that has an eerie resemblance to the Max. The rifle shot better after reaming that it did before. Really puts a pop in the round. Youll see how relevant lever guns are next time the bolsheviks are in the white house. The rifle should be able to shoot all the standard lead .357 bullets, including the 148 gr wadcutters. by Griff Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:22 pm, Post Bare essentials. The pre-lawyer Rossi 92s are nice guns. But it was attached to the saddle..which was (hopefully) attached to the horse. Dont believe me?? The Lil Gun and AA1680 are max loads from my searching tho I've seen several claim you can't get enough AA1680 in the case to overload it. Had a lousy day in the deer blind once, in my youth. This load generates very close to the SAAMI max of 35k psi. by pwl44m Thu Jul 19, 2012 1:56 pm, Post [6] The "Magnum era" began with the .375 H&H rifle cartridge, spreading to handguns with the .357 Magnum. The Henry Big Boy Steel is a great option, too. Have you actually tried looking for a .38/.357 lever gun? Thats info that will come in handy. There have been discussions in the past about the comparison between the .357 Magnum and the .30 Carbine cartridges. Guns can be fun. I really cant eithersure was glad I had 8 30 round mags full of 62 gr 556 as BLM looters were approaching in May. A great reason to explore reloading. Both were chronographed in the same gun (8" Colt Python). Me personally I will gladly take an 1892 or 1894 in .357 instead of a black rifle.. Cartridge is a mite better now than 3 years ago, IMO. (Ive been running 7 grains for handgun loads.). Over time, Sellier & Bellot expanded its product line to include rifle cartridges and smokeless powder. Id stay away from used Marlins made anywhere from 2005-2015 though. One say I will probably add a .357 in a carbine for all around utility in the 100 yards or less range. Ive had a similar experience. Guns Rifles Harrington Richardson Rifles HARRINGTON RICHARDSON . At that task, it has excelled for more than a century. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. My standard rule for maximum pressure that I have gone by for over 35 years is to take pressures to the point where a slight crater (ridge) begins to appear around the firing pin indent, then back off to just below that point. Hornady XTP 158 gr. Click the link to go to the Contact page: If you choose to remove the forend, contact me first so you don't lose parts removing the forend! 1,535 max: Lil'Gun: 17.0 gr. Maybe people will wake up and smell the coffee. I have shot a buddys 357, think it was Italian, a couple times as he is into Cowboy Action..not my thing but fun to watch! When the gun fired, it behaved like all revolvers in that the powder charge in those long chambers burned at a very high temperature. At least try it with used reloading equipment, one or or two sets of dies. Its replete with a brass receiver, 20-inch octagonal barrel and buckhorn rear sight, so it has the classic look and feel, but also features a brass bead front sight and 10-round magazine tube. . $1,379.99. 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. The first loads I worked up were with Speers 0.358-inch 180-grain FNSP intended for the .35 Remington. You can find handguns in the .357 Remington Maximum, but prices vary. by pwl44m Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:33 pm, Post Accepted Payment Methods: Returns: 3 Days Looks like they replaced my hammer with a used part and there is some marks on the front sight hood that werent there before. But I take your point that a rifle can be usefuland fun. Many would consider it a good deer cartridge, but when used in a handgun, it would be rather marginal for that purpose. About 5 deer have fallen to that rifle/bullet combo, all of the bang-flop's at about 80 yards. Thank God for so many various powders available. Antique (Pre-1899) Rifles - Flintlock Misc, Antique (Pre-1899) Rifles - Matchlock/Wheellock Misc, Century Arms International (CAI) - Rifles, Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Rifles (perc), Winchester Rifles - Modern Bolt/Auto/Single, Winchester Rifles - Pre-1899 Bolt/Single Shot, Century Arms International (CAI) - Pistols, Colt Automatic Pistols (.25, .32, & .380 cal), Colt Single Action Revolvers - Modern (22 Cal. In May I went to Utah and took my brother, his son, and a handful of their friends out shooting. H110. rounds much more than the .22s. Its nice to check back in after so many years and see that my old photos and articles are still relevant. I wrote the original TTAG book on pistol-caliber levers back in the day, and Id like to add a few points to those made in this article. If you have some, enjoy them. Several years back I wanted a light weight all weather stainless steel single shot rifle chambered in 357 magnum, and the Rossi was the answer. Of the 32 models of 357 lever gun they offer, there are precisely zero units currently available for sale. I settled on Accurate 1680 propellant. MAXIMUM RIFLE | 325 | 122 | Lc | 125.0022ms, HARRINGTON & RICHARDSON 158 .357 MAXIMUM RIFLE. He cleaned that up. Unless they went back later to get it they never seemed to care that much. This round is about the same thing as a 357 Max except for bore diameter. Unfortunately it caught the Remlin disease and had to be sent to the ship for some warranty work. Available in different sizes and red dot ready, it'll fit your needs, whatever they are. I think a lot of it is people who do not come from a hunting background and just want to look cool. I shoot 38 short. It shoots pretty good. That never happened with Ruger. It came back looking like new. Couldnt seem to understand that I couldnt and didnt care to at this moment. As a recap on hand loads, I would suggest that anyone wishing to hunt with the .357 rifle should . Brand: Winchester. It is easy to load moderately for closer range shots and lighter recoil. Maximum, call Kurt Bellm at 970 433 9525. Own Stock. Nosler, and Speer reloading manuals all recommend the use of rifle (rather than pistol) primers due to the high operating pressure of the .357 Maximum. They averaged 1810fps out of my Marlin. I would love to have a new Henry Big Boy X in 357 Magnum.. But I also have lever rifles in pistol calibers of 357 and 45 colt. has the energy and accuracy needed for 200 meter silhouette shooting. No bloody wonder that Remingtons in bankruptcy again. Would love a new one, in particular one of the Henry brand as the finishes are absolutely beautiful. Remington manufactured this impressive cartridge, and still produces new brass for handloaders on occasion. You can boost the Unique up to around 11-12 grains, as I recall, and your gun should handle it fine with that bullet. Joseph Von Benedikt is with Jorge Spat to learn all about it. Most 357 mag guns are 16" barrels and some are 20 inch. The company made its humble start in 1963in Gussago, Italywhen Giuseppe Pietta made a commitment to produce guns as authentic and true-to-original as possible. A few javelina even took up residence beneath a collapsed radar dish, they just tunneled under the edge and hid out all hunting season. It appears to be a rimless 357 Maximum. So far I've shot 19.0, 20.0, and 21.0 of H110 using Remington 7-1/2 primers and a 180 XTP. This produced a blue-white ring of fire at the gap where the bullet transitioned the jump from cylinder to the barrel. I do like the other pistols but somehow I always end up back at one of those two. The Model X in .357 magnum is super compact with an overall length of just 36.3 inches. If you want to. . Most of all it looks cool and reminds me of the good old days when guns were all made from steel and wood instead of plastic. A Dan Wesson revolver in that caliber based on the heavy duty Dan Wesson 44 Mag frame was offered. 38 special. You would be hard pressed to find an all around cartridge as good as the .357. I have a H&R single shot .357 maximum. Make sure to watch till the end. Back in 05, I bought an Interarms marked Rossi model 92SR off of the used rack at a LGS for $200. by Tycer Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:57 pm, Post Also have a stainless Rossi in .45 Colt. Show Only Non-Guns. I had the model 19 years ago. I told them if they were so worried about reloading they can have my brass. .357 Remington Maximum is one potent game harvesting machine with more energy potential than factory .30/30 Winchester and .35 Remington, roughly equal to factory .300 Savage, and not far behind .308 Winchester energy levels, but with much less powder, less muzzle blast, and less recoil! All Types (1000+) Who knew wild turkey's were so stupid!? .357 inches (all 350 legend) shell case length: Source: www.okshooters.com Notify Me When Available. Everyone asks if they can shoot MAGnums in the .357 MAXimum chamber; however, with the .3" long jump before the bullet even gets to the throat, you can't expect great accuracy. lets say it was well used and not maintained. being a good functional maximum charge with 180 gr. Lever action rifles are fun. I wish I had known Hornady was going to discontinue them, I would have stocked up on them. The .357 Maximum was introduced into commercial production as a joint-venture by Remington Arms Company and Ruger in 1983 as a new chambering for the Ruger Blackhawk. A T/C Contender G2 or Encore makes a lot more since. If you use 158-grain bullets on game, I highly recommend softpoints over hollowpoints. . I prefer flatnose or roundnose designs in this velocity range because they typically demonstrate better expansion than Spitzers at the same velocity. 357 Remington Maximum Additional Loads Below are the all of the bullet and load recipes followed by the groups shot at distance with our 21 357 Max 1:20 Encore barrel. Goes to show I learn something new every day. 45-70. Bottom line, if you get a Marlin lever gun that works and shoots good, and without a crossbolt safety, dont EVER sell it. Yup. 008-E503841 | MTM. Web the.357 maximum was an effort to give you.357 magnum muzzle velocity at 200 meters. Slick set up that kept a rifle close to hand and out of sight. I dont have a horse ..so the ring comes off. I had just enough time to look at a Winchester 92 in .357(did not like the large loop lever) and an italian copy of the 73. We cover the 357 MaximumAll you need to know about the 357 Remington Maximum! I would accept the beating and get a .44 if I did. Im sure even more now. You can also get your lever action fix without breaking the bank on ammunition .357 Remington is cheaper than .30-30 and without breaking your shoulder, as a .45-70 will make you black rifle boys soil yourselves and cry for your mommas. I will admit to some bias my first handgun was a S&W Model 19 and, for many years, it was my only handgun. In those area, they cant legally own an AR, AK, etc. Based on the Encore being ok for the 270, up to 65,000 psi is Ok. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gun-review-henry-big-boy-44-magnum/. Mark Penrod is one. Zombie apocalypse? Buy 357 Maximum Brass Pistol Cases 95pcs Mixed Brass 357 Max: GunBroker is the largest seller of Reloading Supplies Ammunition Reloading All: 974082394. . Seems to me thats just about the perfect lever-action carbine caliber. We manufacture Partition, AccuBond, E-Tip, Ballistic Tip, Custom Competition and much more. I enjoyed your article. 2023 The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers on this website. At least you should expect the kind of quality youd get from a Remington bolt gun in the price range. Did you go with the .375 Supermag rather than the .375 Winchester due to case length restrictions? A World Record Attempt and everyone is out at the range shooting and practicing. The 357 out-paces the 44-40 and 32-20 by a fair margin. When Remington put the special round into production, it got a new (and prophetic) name: .357 Maximum. Dan Wesson guns had easily-replaceable barrels and came with an extra in .357 Maximum. Its just not special enough to me for my wallet to cough up the bucks. Either will give hunting accuracy better than a big percentage of "varmint rifles! Expect this one to make a comeback, like the 10mm. Who knows what the future will bring and if the wife and I will one day move out of this state, but for now we have good jobs, good friends, a good church, no debt, and hope that the current angst against Newsom and the Left in general will bring about some degree of change in November. The powerful Ruger 77/357 is chambered in .357 Mag. Lube is easily made from beeswax and chassis grease. NEVER EXCEED MAXIMUM LOADS: Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for . Then you wont be caught short. The .357 Maximum went away. In fact, a lever action carbine and a revolver in matching caliber is every bit as useful today as it was for the settlers on the Western Frontier. I can (for now) legally own an AR, and do. Head to the range this week with American Rifleman staff as they discuss a trim little repeater from Savage Arms that comes chambered for the .22 WMR cartridge. There'll be no market for it. The Winchester Model 1873 is an iconic rifle commonly referred to as "The Gun That Won the West.". I sure like my Marlin 94c..I had my Smith do an action and trigger job on it. Thus sighted, 125 grain +p 38 special is spot on out to about 50 yards, maybe furtherbut havent tried it. I would not mind adding a budget minded lever gun to my lot, something as accurate as my buddys. Not going to get activated by accident, and potentially useful now and then. I've searched the internet without finding definitive answers. Here are the features to watch out for. Big improvement in smothness. including a .40 S&W Barrel (view pictures). Also, those hotter loaded ammunitions usually over boast about their velocity. While initially offered in .44-40, .32-20 and .38-40 (and discontinued for some time) a new version emerged in 2013 chambered for .357 Magnum/.38 Spl and a hammer block safety for safe carry. Show Only with Pictures Give me a blued steel finish with walnut, no plastics or laminates please!!! It was a long-range shooting sport in which the targets were the silhouettes of game animals cut from steel plate and placed in banks of five at 50, 100, 150 and 200 meters. Upon opening the box the gun was dirty and needed to be cleaned/oiled, not sure if the dust was from the shipping cardboard or lack of care in the shop before packing. 38 wad cutters and 357 mag, I have a 357 maximum but I dont reload can I buy a box. . Why wouldnt you want a .357 Magnum lever action rifle? The .357 Maximum was initially chambered in the Ruger Blackhawk in 1983 and was for a time adopted by other handgun manufactures. NEF 357 Mag camo syn stocks with camo Nikon scope H&R 490 Topper Jr 20 ga, barrel cut to 21.5" threaded to Rem Chokes. 05-25-2020 . HubPages is a registered trademark of The Arena Platform, Inc. Other product and company names shown may be trademarks of their respective owners. It was simply the .357 case lengthened to 1.60 and used the heavier bullets of 158 grains to as much as 200 grains. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Winchester Firearms 1873 Deluxe Sporting 357 Mag / 38 Spl Lever-Action Rifle with Color Case Hardene. The "little but mighty" .357 " Maxie" ! Full rechamber to .357 MAXimum or .350 Legend for energy levels on par with .300 Savage or moderate .308 Winchester loads and a bonafide 250 yard rifle. Trust me. So naturally, I'm looking at different options and trying to figure out what has the longest range. Of commonly available rifles, 444 marlin seems to be near the top of the heap, ballistics wise. Citadel Levtac-92 .357 Magnum Tactical-Lever! The hole in the barrel and tube could not be repaired but were near the ends, so he shortened and crowned the barrel, put in a new mag tube spring. The .357 Magnum is considerably more powerful than its parent round the .38 Special. Given its performance for me in those cases it seems it would make an excellent powder for use in the 357 in rifles. Seems like whenever Ive had the funds, none have been available, and when Im broke, there everywhere. It loads long, with a cartridge overall length (COL) of 2.145 inches, well over the published max COL of 1.990 inches. )(2009 Note: Some of these loads are from 1996 and in the passing years the powder companies have reduced their maximum loads particularly ones that have been around a long time like Unique. Our public range requires that spent brass be picked up. Then there is the 40-90 Sharps straight 3 1/4" that can be formed from Bell .405 basic cases. Ive been at the range many times when people in adjacent lanes started talking about trigger quality and, when I let them fire that old 19, the response is usually just, wow. A couple of people got that familiar look in their eyes and started plotting their next purchase right there. Was a great gun.I wish someone should resurrect it. . Personally I like Blue Dot, and Bullseye for plinking rounds. They also make a valid home defense rifle AND a great truck gun, to keep the Karens and Kens from whining ASSAULT RIFLE. Just like the CSBL, it has a 16- barrel length and an 8-shot tube magazine, an enlarged loop and swivel studsbut this model also adds a threaded barrel for adding a suppressor.
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